2016 M9000 HELP

[Prodealer24]

Took my 2016 M9000 out for the first dig and couple quick issues that i am having.
ISSUE 1 I have the evo 215 reflash and at random times the sled would sputter i would let out and get back in to it and it would be fine i dont think it was over revving and no codes
ISSUE 2 lost a belt at 54 miles the belt delaminated and then broke
clutches are not very hot and i have vented side panels
some help would be great
also is the new team boss secondary has no float is this suppose to float or not?
is there an alternative to a different belt other than the AC Belt

 

[Trucker379l]

Do you have plugs gap at 020"? and make sure exhaust gaskets are not blown out or leaking around the turbo. They will do funny things when you have exhaust leaks.

 

[RACINSTATION]

Spark plugs with incorrect gap.

Stock blow off valve is junk and you need to upgrade to the Evo BRV.

Check center to center on crankshaft to jackshaft as well as belt alignment. 2016 BOSS clutch has NO float.

 

[Prodealer24]

I have the evo brv haven't checked the plugs and is there a tool for center to center for the new clutches and hate dumping money into osp tools and alignment with no grantee for that fixing it has there been issues with the new clutches

 

[snoball]

Eric is that the gap on stock plugs?

 

[Trucker379l]

That's not the gap for stock spec. But if running aftermarket set up. Run cr9eb plug gapped at 020.

 

[snoball]

Got 2012 215 evo flash n everything else they have with stock plugs.

 

[Trucker379l]

The plugs aren't the easiest thing to get at. But if your running a higher boost level. You want your gap tightened up

 

[RACINSTATION]

Eric is that the gap on stock plugs?

No. Anything over stock needs to be gapped. Usually you will get a mid range stutter if they are not.

 

[Prodealer24]

What brand is the cr9eb plugs?

 

[snoball]

No. Anything over stock needs to be gapped. Usually you will get a mid range stutter if they are not.

So what should gap be on stock plugs? I have evo cold air ,brv, turbo elbow, bullit can, 215 flash, tlc stage 3, team clutch , chain gears, it has a pop out exhaust once in a while. thanks

 

[RACINSTATION]

NGK makes the CR9EB.

Proper gap for the M1100/M9000 is .020"

 

[Prodealer24]

So my 2016 m9000 has the evo 215 flash ,intercooler fan. 4 stroke solutions rov ,evo brv, evo boost tubes, evo turbo elbow, evo 3 inch bullet exhaust, should i be running the ngk cr9eb plugs gapped at .020

 

[snoball]

Ok thanks Eric for the help.

 

[RACINSTATION]

So my 2016 m9000 has the evo 215 flash ,intercooler fan. 4 stroke solutions rov ,evo brv, evo boost tubes, evo turbo elbow, evo 3 inch bullet exhaust, should i be running the ngk cr9eb plugs gapped at .020

Anything over stock should have the plugs gapped. The higher the boost the more critical it becomes.

 

[Trucker379l]

I would start with the plug gap. But while hoods off make sure you have a look at your exhaust bolts and gaskets.

 

[JustBoostIt]

The popping/misfiring on the odd 215 flash needs to be changed to the cr9eb plug. It usually is in the 68-7200 rpm range. It is the same plug as we use in the BC & SC turbo kits. We gap those at 20. When we do have to change plugs with the 215 flash we gap at 25. There is no way to know if the stock plugs will work with the 215 flash until you ride it but 90% have no issue with it. From what I have seen flashing 1100 ecus for 4 years is we can take a "popping" ecu from one sled and bolt it to another one and have no issues. It's just the tolerances on the ecu parts and presumably voltage fluctuations between sleds.

This is '12-'15 1100s we've seen this on. Presume '16s would be the same. For guys that have 215 flashes i recommend that they carry a set of cr9eb with them in case this condition happens. I've had a couple guys that the condition developed after running the flash with stock plugs flawless a whole season previous. No rhyme or reason but the solution is known.

 

[Hotchief]

Thanks for the help!

The popping/misfiring on the odd 215 flash needs to be changed to the cr9eb plug. It usually is in the 68-7200 rpm range. It is the same plug as we use in the BC & SC turbo kits. We gap those at 20. When we do have to change plugs with the 215 flash we gap at 25. There is no way to know if the stock plugs will work with the 215 flash until you ride it but 90% have no issue with it. From what I have seen flashing 1100 ecus for 4 years is we can take a "popping" ecu from one sled and bolt it to another one and have no issues. It's just the tolerances on the ecu parts and presumably voltage fluctuations between sleds.

This is '12-'15 1100s we've seen this on. Presume '16s would be the same. For guys that have 215 flashes i recommend that they carry a set of cr9eb with them in case this condition happens. I've had a couple guys that the condition developed after running the flash with stock plugs flawless a whole season previous. No rhyme or reason but the solution is known.

This issue happened to me yesterday.

I've never had any problems, I have about 450 miles on my sled which has most of the EVO upgrades including the 215 flash.

Towards the end of the day my motor starting popping loud and missing at around half throttle (into boost).

There was definitely something wrong, so I called it a day.
It was a warmer day, the sled was running warm, but there was plenty of snow.

I'm running Chevron 92 with a splash of VP 110.
The motor has factory untouched plugs.

I'm going to install the NGK CR9EB plugs.
Please confirm I should gap them at 25 with the EVO 215 flash?

Anything else I should specifically check while under the hood?

Thank you in advance.

 

[Trucker379l]

Yes. Cr9eb gapped at .025. And check exhaust gaskets around the turbo. Make sure they are not blown out.

 

[Hotchief]

Running Hot

Searching the 1100 forum, beginning to also think the sled was behaving and popping because it was hot.

Earlier in the day it boiled when shut down, also I was low on fuel.

So many possibilities - I will check over everything.

Please shoot me your suggestions.

Thanks