2016 low speed belt chatter
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Just take out the deflection adjuster completely, then adjust your deflection by using washer shims between the sheaves. Slightly bigger washers
Done.
I don't know how that got miss communicated earlier but it's pretty simple to look and say, Hey if I just add washers between the sheaves I don't need that bolt. But they have to be smugly bigger to go over shaft.
Also I probably never here mine because the belt deflection is tight, my belt is on the verge of squeling, so just as soon as I take off the secondary is engaged and no noise. What a huge problem omg.
If they are recalling clutches that's just idiotic. These clutches are such a massive upgrade from anything before but ppl gotta have something to batch about and screw it up for us.
Hey Artic Cat, here's to you for doing something right, I got your back 100% on this one! Now the panels and boards on the other hand. .....
And gearing
Done.
I don't know how that got miss communicated earlier but it's pretty simple to look and say, Hey if I just add washers between the sheaves I don't need that bolt. But they have to be smugly bigger to go over shaft.
Also I probably never here mine because the belt deflection is tight, my belt is on the verge of squeling, so just as soon as I take off the secondary is engaged and no noise. What a huge problem omg.
If they are recalling clutches that's just idiotic. These clutches are such a massive upgrade from anything before but ppl gotta have something to batch about and screw it up for us.
Hey Artic Cat, here's to you for doing something right, I got your back 100% on this one! Now the panels and boards on the other hand. .....
And gearing
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Sounds like we might be getting a new driven, I won't be riding until the 27th....well that's if there's snow in the northern midwest.
Until then I'll be watching you guys out west for info.
Holly sh!t. God has saved us all again! Now you guys can just quit batchin. Just spend a grand and cover up the noise. Duh! What a DS!
Duh! What a DS!Just take out the deflection adjuster completely, then adjust your deflection by using washer shims between the sheaves.
Done.
Clutch aligners is done by adding washers to the back of the clutch so I don't know how that got miss communicated earlier but it's pretty simple to look and say, Hey if I just add washers between the sheaves I don't need that bolt.
Also I probably never here mine because the belt deflection is tight, my belt is on the verge of squeling, so just as soon as I take off the secondary is engaged and no noise. What a huge problem omg.
If they are recalling clutches that's just idiotic. These clutches are such a massive upgrade from anything before but ppl gotta have something to batch about and screw it up for us.
Hey Artic Cat, here's to you for doing something right, I got your back 100% on this one! Now the panels and boards on the other hand. .....
And gearing
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ACMtnCat
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Just take out the deflection adjuster completely, then adjust your deflection by using washer shims between the sheaves.
Done.
Clutch aligners is done by adding washers to the back of the clutch so I don't know how that got miss communicated earlier but it's pretty simple to look and say, Hey if I just add washers between the sheaves I don't need that bolt.
Also I probably never here mine because the belt deflection is tight, my belt is on the verge of squeling, so just as soon as I take off the secondary is engaged and no noise. What a huge problem omg.
If they are recalling clutches that's just idiotic. These clutches are such a massive upgrade from anything before but ppl gotta have something to batch about and screw it up for us.
Hey Artic Cat, here's to you for doing something right, I got your back 100% on this one! Now the panels and boards on the other hand. .....
And gearing
Completely WRONG!!!!!! Got your heap up your butt on this one Wyo!
First off - You DO NOT and CAN NOT adjust deflection that way.
Secondly - You do not adjust alignment by shims behind the clutch it is adjusted by the shims in the middle of the clutch!
Thirdly - There is a problem with the secondary clutch and Arctic Cat is looking into it. We talked to Shawn at Arctic Cat about it and he is working on it and he thought the Derlin tip was a great idea IF IT HOLDS UP!
And here is a update on the derlin tip: It worked AWESOME! Completely eliminated the screech of metal on metal that was happening!
More testing this weekend, trying another idea in conjunction with the derlin tip adjuster.
Slide area is near perfect, just starting to rub the hardened steel coloring off.
The tip is polished smooth and showing no sign of wear.
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Secondly - You do not adjust alignment by shims behind the clutch it is adjusted by the shims in the middle of the clutch!
Sounds weird , anyone confirm this.
Sounds weird , anyone confirm this.
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ACMtnCat
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Yeah..... It is apparent Wyo has not done that either!
He's too busy shreddin the gnar!
And slappin himself on the back!
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ACMtnCat
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Not hard to see how it works if you just look at it.
The inside sheave moves in and back out. The outside sheave does not move and is aligned by washers / shims against a shoulder on the shaft. REAL SIMPLE!
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Completely WRONG!!!!!! Got your heap up your butt on this one Wyo!
First off - You DO NOT and CAN NOT adjust deflection that way.
Secondly - You do not adjust alignment by shims behind the clutch it is adjusted by the shims in the middle of the clutch!
Thirdly - There is a problem with the secondary clutch and Arctic Cat is looking into it. We talked to Shawn at Arctic Cat about it and he is working on it and he thought the Derlin tip was a great idea IF IT HOLDS UP!
And here is a update on the derlin tip: It worked AWESOME! Completely eliminated the screech of metal on metal that was happening!
Slide area is near perfect, just starting to rub the hardened steel coloring off.
The tip is polished smooth and showing no sign of wear.
Yes I was wrong on the alignment! I'll give you that.
BUT, Just like I said if you put washers between the sheaves it will adjust deflection, they have to be big enough to go over shaft. Easy done. No more adjuster.
Your right real simple. Add washers
Been going straight for 38hrs, not sure where I was going with the alignment comment but either way, my bad on that part.
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ACMtnCat
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I like it! I think you should make 2 of them for your clutch. I think the one deflector bolt is pushing the movable sheave off balance on the shaft and making the CHEAP orange teflon bushing squeak, I'm calling it a squawk. The noise changed when I eliminated the metal screech of the steel bolt. Pointing me to the movable sheave as the existing noise maker. Once the bolt loses contact with the movable sheave slide pad the noise stops.
By adding a opposing quite/easy glide bolt it should balance the bushing on the shaft and cure the squawk of the bushing. It might require a fine adjustment on the second bolt to find that balance tho.
The real fix would be a good fiber bushing like the ones in the primary clutch cover plate. I'll try to confirm that this weekend.
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I have a 2016 HCR with no miles on it yet. Heading to mountains in Quebec next weekend for a few days. I hope I don't run into this problem or worse.
I have a 2016 HCR with no miles on it yet. Heading to mountains in Quebec next weekend for a few days. I hope I don't run into this problem or worse.
Its just noise, does not hurt performance, just ride it, its under warranty and if they make a change they will replace secondary, just ride it
Wow! Not fast to jump on a guy for tRyin to help are we? Wyo boy said to shim the secondary for the right amount of clearance, pretty much a standard statement unless your head is up your a?? . You don't like it? Move on and get a different solution if you don't like his. He just offered up a solution, maybe a little more proof reading is required or, God forbid, a little thinking, but the theory is sound. Shim it and the problem should go away.
If you don't like the facts because you don't understand how **** works, maybe you should stick to writing cowardly letters to people who won't do ****. I will adjust, improvise and overcome so I can ride!
Sorry if I hurt a feeler but, really, grow up losers.
Thanks wyo!
If you don't like the facts because you don't understand how **** works, maybe you should stick to writing cowardly letters to people who won't do ****. I will adjust, improvise and overcome so I can ride!
Sorry if I hurt a feeler but, really, grow up losers.
Thanks wyo!
A 5/16-24x1 screw with a round point should be an easy fix, below is a pic of a rocker arm adjuster unfortunately it's a 3/8-24 with a 5/16 ball, I'm thinking this could work.
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arctic2009
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You can adjust deflection by adding shims, they will just be a bigger ID than the shims used for alignment. It would take a lot of shims but it actually can be done. One question, did you compare the weight of the derlin end and bolt to the old adjuster? The sheaves are balanced with the deflection adjuster in it. Your new adjuster may throw them out of balance. Not knocking your idea just pointing out the possibility.
I'm guessing if you found a clutch that hadn't been used in reverse yet, those marks wouldn't be on that plate...
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