Noise is not a concern really... they are noisy machines, right.
Only a concern if it is damaging...or is an indication for areas of performance improvement.
At sled boost levels... I'm not really worried about breaking compressor wheels...so we can write off the damage category, leaving only the question of perf improvement.
If the flutter happens during part throttle... can be corrected easily and improvements made.
If the flutter only happens when the throttle is abruptly closed... nothing to do.
If it is surging too much... the spring may be too stiff for the application and is not relieving the pressure fast enough,
could also be related to wastegate response time (not fast enough to decrease energy to the turbine).
OR... as mentioned above: Is it the nature of an EFR turbo to make a 'flutter' noise because the air is returned directly
back to the inducer?
Surge is directly related to response... and I doubt you will keep surge from happening when you go from WOT to
full closed in an instant on ANY system.
Intake noise on a sled is accentuated by the fact that there is a pretty direct line for sound to travel to
the riders ears... with no other 'muffling' device between the source and the rider.
The question about the wastegate spring on the MTNTK setup, vs. diaphragm actuator on the factory configuration
(typical) is related to speed at which pipe pressure can open the wastegate in response to the speed of throttle operation.
Again... from reports on the MTNTK kit... customers are happy with them... but always things can evolve.
The mass of the turbine (or lack thereof) puts the EFR into it's own category... spool rates, up/down, must be great with this unit.
Not long before others are using the EFR's in the sleds... I've seen a mock up of one with external
wastegate for an AXYS running an EBC... I really enjoy seeing this stuff evolve !
Heck... less than 10 years ago.. we were just starting to see turbo kits for sleds being marketed
to the average consumer... things have evolved a LOT since then.
.
Only a concern if it is damaging...or is an indication for areas of performance improvement.
At sled boost levels... I'm not really worried about breaking compressor wheels...so we can write off the damage category, leaving only the question of perf improvement.
If the flutter happens during part throttle... can be corrected easily and improvements made.
If the flutter only happens when the throttle is abruptly closed... nothing to do.
If it is surging too much... the spring may be too stiff for the application and is not relieving the pressure fast enough,
could also be related to wastegate response time (not fast enough to decrease energy to the turbine).
OR... as mentioned above: Is it the nature of an EFR turbo to make a 'flutter' noise because the air is returned directly
back to the inducer?
Surge is directly related to response... and I doubt you will keep surge from happening when you go from WOT to
full closed in an instant on ANY system.
Intake noise on a sled is accentuated by the fact that there is a pretty direct line for sound to travel to
the riders ears... with no other 'muffling' device between the source and the rider.
The question about the wastegate spring on the MTNTK setup, vs. diaphragm actuator on the factory configuration
(typical) is related to speed at which pipe pressure can open the wastegate in response to the speed of throttle operation.
Again... from reports on the MTNTK kit... customers are happy with them... but always things can evolve.
The mass of the turbine (or lack thereof) puts the EFR into it's own category... spool rates, up/down, must be great with this unit.
Not long before others are using the EFR's in the sleds... I've seen a mock up of one with external
wastegate for an AXYS running an EBC... I really enjoy seeing this stuff evolve !
Heck... less than 10 years ago.. we were just starting to see turbo kits for sleds being marketed
to the average consumer... things have evolved a LOT since then.
.
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