141 Skid Mod for 570 MTN CAT

[joel97mustang]

Hey guys just bought a used 2004 570 MTN Cat 1M for my 9 year old son (weighs 78 lbs) and want to drop as much weight from the sled 448lbs sled as possible.

What newer/lighter 141 skid (i.e. 2007 M6 141") would bolt under this machine?? A few people I haven spoke with said this would be the quickest most effective/affordable way to lose alot of weight and I can add a 2" paddle without losing too much track speed. Any thoughts?? Where could I purchase such a skid??

I am a tortured soul trying to get my kids to sled with me in the mtns. I have tried all the other toys sleds 120, Snoscoot, Enticer, etc. I need a wife sled that's light as possible.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[backcountryislife]

I'm usually the first one telling people to go shorter, but I tend to be the opposite of most... With a smaller rider, I'd stay long. It'll be more forgiving for him, less chance of getting stuck, easier to stop on an uphill, more ability to go slow through an area of deep snow.


There's not that much weight you'll lose just in the 5" of skid & 10" of track (comparing length to length). You could get a newer float style skid at your length & save some weight, also getting a newer single ply track might save some as well.

I'd say do the normal things... can, maybe seat, and whatever else works on that gen sled. I just think going shorter is the wrong answer for a less skilled & smaller rider. (but it IS the right answer for a strong rider imo!!)


Btw... focus on skid setup, having proper ski pressure is VERY important for a lighter rider (my wife is a hardcore rider, but is only 105, so I've dealt with lighter riders a lot) if you've got too much ski pressure, he'll struggle learning to sidehill, but with too little he'll have a hard time turning flat, like in the trees or on a trail. He doesn't have the weight to shift forward to weight the skis like we can if the front end is too light.
For Abby I get the skid set up so the skis are too light, then decrease front shock preload from there to get her to where she can turn the sled flat but gets proper transfer so she can sidehill more easily. Better to be a touch light than to be too heavy, he'll learn quicker that way.

 

[joel97mustang]

Thanks for the skid setup info, much appreciated.

I'm not finding many options for a lighter weight seat for this beast.

 

[backcountryislife]

http://www.bossseats.com/1m-king-cat-mountain-cat-model.html


you should be able to find a used one out there pretty easy.

Btw, what length is it right now? I was just thinking, wasn't that sled just in a 144?

 

[m8magicandmystery]

those 570 sleds were pretty amazing for floatation...you just might regret playing with the skid other then adjusting it like backcountry
suggests

 

[joel97mustang]

No it's a 136 with a 1.4 inch paddle

 

[backcountryislife]

oh. well...
I'd say give him the best chance you can then. I thought you were going to SHORTEN it... sorry. (When you were talking about losing weight I assumed it was a 151)

In that case, you could throw a float skid with 141 rails under it. (you'd need a couple washers as the M skid is narrower than the Mcat skid, but it's been done many times) a 141 powerclaw would be a good way to go, if you stuck with a 144 though you could keep the same drivers though, that sled has 2.52 & we use 3.0 now.


I'd bet Michelle could help you find the parts for reasonable, or point you the direction of someone who has them sitting. If you decide to go 151, I've got a clean 151 2" challenger here I'd sell for very cheap, you can fit a 151 on an M skid (so, get a 153 M float skid, then keep your drivers)

 

[Ski-Laxn]

I have a complete 141 float skid out of a 2010 xf800 would sell for $500.

 

[KMMAC]

I think most of the light weight stuff you can get for the larger 1M sleds will fit the 570 also.. Looked pretty much the same chassis, I too would go at least 144 and 2" or taller even with his weight the chassis will struggle some to climb up on the snow... I think this chassis has the rolled chain case also, so in a year or two you could add a larger engine, with some work this is a good chassis.. Make sure and gear it down not sure what this one came with. A safe bet would be 19/42 or 44 this will also help slow it down on the trail. The one draw back with this chassis is the handling on the trail after it is setup for off trail riding. The front end tends to be light on the skis for turning..

 

[joel97mustang]

I have heard of this Michelle but don't know where to find? Just search Michelle name on forums. Any other info about this woman?

Thanks

 

[T-Bone]

I have heard of this Michelle but don't know where to find? Just search Michelle name on forums. Any other info about this woman?

Thanks

Search FreeAgent

 

[backcountryislife]

541.523.3500

oregon trail sports.

She's really slow, horrible service, usually ships the wrong parts...

 

[Biglizard1]

i do have a 144 track from a 1m 02 cat pm if interested. and I live in baker where freeagent resides. BCIL.... you know her too well...