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[J&L Snowhawk]

If the 2moto kit interest you check out the adboivin.com site It has the new explorer kit on there now. With ten years of development with track designs and 9 years of snowhawk development they should be very good. They are also less money 3000.00 instead of 4300.00. Will be taking orders this spring if interested. If you havent tried a hawk quit waiting you will probaly change your opinion about 1 ski.

 

[Pro_Marinero]

So if I read the ad right it uses the bike's existing swingarm, shock, and the track is driven externally on top rather than internally like a sled track?

 

[Larry Storm]

2Moto Made in the USA !

That's a Very poor Copy ! Is this also Unique in the World ?? Careful, The Hulk may eat it's own ! How many left over BRP parts did they use this time ? 2MOTO.Com Made in the USA !

 

[snowhawkaddict]

Shooter,

you still holding on to getting that gold jacket!

Made in America has become a statement more and more companies would rather not have as a label.

Until the people representing the products actually believe in them, the people buying them won't.

Had Harley helped Cannondale they might never have had to lay those folks off in December.

Polaris could have repaired their damaged relationships with loyal customers by installing 04 800's for free in the IQ, and redelivering their 900 when they were confident with it.

There are so many reasons American industry is going through a cleansing cycle so when they finally give people what they want, they will truly get what the deserve-- R E S P E C T!

Instant gratification seems to be the only drive for our NORTH AMERICAN manufacturers, watch them fall their running out of suckers fast.

They better hurry up and figure it out, the Koreans, and Chinese are coming!

 

[J&L Snowhawk]

brands dont matter

Why is it that so many people only buy something because so and so built it. What the hell happened to buying something because it is built with quality, or the fun factor of a product. Quit your pissin about the manufacture and try new things then voice your opinion.

 

[Snowlover]

Why do Sno-hawkers all have attutudes. I would never buy from anyone that expresses themselves the way you two do.

 

[Luke The Drifter]

Theres 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

 

[Pro_Marinero]

So you can you Snohawk guys answer my original question? I re-read the ad and saw that the stock swingarm and shock are indeed used, but still no mention of drive. Is that the drive wheel I see on top of the track?

 

[J&L Snowhawk]

answers

as of right now the only info we have is what you have on the web site. It is hard to tell what kind of drive it is using. Sorry cant help more at this time.

 

[snowhawkaddict]

Answer!

Why don't you just purchase the 2moto product, support them you put all that effort into going to ride it and they put the effort into letting you ride it the way you wanted to.

The best part is you can have it now, in the best season in ten twenty five years, not in October when you are second guessing whether it will snow.

I rode it, very little mind you, but I could tell it works, my friends rode it an liked it very much, if one of us could justify it we would, or should just so we would know.

As I said to Bret before, if the design does most of what we can do on our Hawks, which we wont know until we learn it we are all in, and will never look back but to remember where we came from.

 

[Pro_Marinero]

I am going to get the 2Moto. I was just wondering how ADB got around 2Moto's multiple patents. I can see by the stock shock and swingarm usage they didn't infringe on using the stock swingarm point for connection. The only other big thing was the drive system, and from what I can see the drive unit is an external version, probably driven at the wheel axle itself if it's using the original brake as well.

I'm not saying yea or nay, just design questions.

 

[snowhawkaddict]

Understood!

Let us Hawkers know when you get it would love to join you.

 

[Blaser]

I am going to get the 2Moto. I was just wondering how ADB got around 2Moto's multiple patents. I can see by the stock shock and swingarm usage they didn't infringe on using the stock swingarm point for connection. The only other big thing was the drive system, and from what I can see the drive unit is an external version, probably driven at the wheel axle itself if it's using the original brake as well.

I'm not saying yea or nay, just design questions.

Until another company releases a product for sale, verification of patent infringement is speculation, and difficult to enforce. You can build whatever you want in your garage, but once you produce it for sale- patents can then be enforced and damages awarded. The Boivins are smart guys, with quite a few patents in their portfolio. They should have done their patent search homework on the Explorer, because if not...

Take the Ski-doo/Simmons skis example. Simmons won in court. Even Boivin is walking a thin line with Simmons and their twin axis ski. I'm still not sure why Simmons hasn't gone after that one.