Rode one for a few hours last winter. Much heavier thatn my 800RMK but has wonderful throttle response, a powerband that it wiiiiiiiiide and good trail manners. On harder conditions, it will climb as well as any 3-5 yr old 800's. In the fluffy, It weighs so much more that it won't get as high. I'd but one for the reliablilty, lack of oil, and the electric start. If you want to enjoy a day's riding and can discipline yourself that its not going where you would normally go on a lighter sled, then its the one. If you are the knd of rider that always pushes the limits, you won't be happy with it. My two cents.