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I get asked for my opinion on this topic by our members quite often in emails and PM's
So I put it up here for discussion... and so I don't have to keep typing replies to people.
This kind of thread is helpful, IMO... so that people are aware of the true cost and value of a used turbo system.
Below is my presentation of my OPINION...
I know this thread may raise the Ire of owners or retailers of kits... this is my honest opinion that I have passed on to many potential-buyers of kits in emails/PM's that I believe is fair to the seller and the buyer of a kit taken from an 'eyes wide open' perspective.
Mountain sleds.... SnoWest's kind of riding for the most part.
When you buy a new turbo kit the buyer of the NEW kit should be aware of the value/price of the kit in terms of the possible future scenario of wanting to sell the turbo-kit or turbo-sled ... and what they could expect to sell the kit or sled for.
For the purposes of this thread...SAY... If you buy a $4000-ish Turbo-kit use it for a year or so... and then sell it to someone else as a kit (off the sled)
Yes, I know there are more expensive kits with more features etc on them... but for the terms of this initial presentation in this thread... I'll keep it to these $4000 ish systems. We can discuss the more expensive systems as this thread evolves.
Depending on the kit... you will either have:
1) A Turbo kit with an ECU that has been "re-flashed" by the MFG
2) A full "piggyback" controller where the ECU remains stock
3) A kit where the programmer is provided to you in the cost of the kit, and you as the customer can do any 'reflash' necessary without the need to send in the ECU for service.
There is also the possibility of a kit that uses a full, stand alone ECU that replaces your factory ECU. (eg Vipec) NOTE: These kits have a higher cost and can be discussed separately below.
In Scenario #1 (ECU must be sent in and re-flashed by mfg)
To sell the kit, removed from the sled, you mush either:
A} Provide the buyer with the flashed ECU from your sled, if their injectors are the same and buy a new ECU from Polaris and have it flashed at the dealer (cost to you would be about $700 parts/flash at dealer)
To me this system, off of the sled, would have a value/price of around $2000-$2500 IF the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
B} Sell the kit and let the buyer fend for themselves in terms of ECU.
To me this system, off of the sled, would have a value/price of around $1200-$1800 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
In Scenario #2 (Full Piggyback system )
As long as you are careful in removal...
To me this system, off of the sled would have a value/price of around $2000-$2500 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
In Scenario #3 (Programmer is included)
To me this system, off of the sled would have a value/price of around $2200-$2700 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
Significant reductions in price for incomplete, damaged or high-hour units.
Of course, there are some stellar low hour kits out there AND... a seller is entitled to ask whatever they want.
My 2¢
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WHAT IS THE TRUE VALUE: USED TURBO KIT OR COMPLETE TURBO SLED, FOR SELLER AND BUYER??
I get asked for my opinion on this topic by our members quite often in emails and PM's
So I put it up here for discussion... and so I don't have to keep typing replies to people.
This kind of thread is helpful, IMO... so that people are aware of the true cost and value of a used turbo system.
What is fair for the Seller and buyer to expect in terms of price/cost?
Below is my presentation of my OPINION...
I know this thread may raise the Ire of owners or retailers of kits... this is my honest opinion that I have passed on to many potential-buyers of kits in emails/PM's that I believe is fair to the seller and the buyer of a kit taken from an 'eyes wide open' perspective.
Mountain sleds.... SnoWest's kind of riding for the most part.
When you buy a new turbo kit the buyer of the NEW kit should be aware of the value/price of the kit in terms of the possible future scenario of wanting to sell the turbo-kit or turbo-sled ... and what they could expect to sell the kit or sled for.
For the purposes of this thread...SAY... If you buy a $4000-ish Turbo-kit use it for a year or so... and then sell it to someone else as a kit (off the sled)
Yes, I know there are more expensive kits with more features etc on them... but for the terms of this initial presentation in this thread... I'll keep it to these $4000 ish systems. We can discuss the more expensive systems as this thread evolves.
Depending on the kit... you will either have:
1) A Turbo kit with an ECU that has been "re-flashed" by the MFG
2) A full "piggyback" controller where the ECU remains stock
3) A kit where the programmer is provided to you in the cost of the kit, and you as the customer can do any 'reflash' necessary without the need to send in the ECU for service.
There is also the possibility of a kit that uses a full, stand alone ECU that replaces your factory ECU. (eg Vipec) NOTE: These kits have a higher cost and can be discussed separately below.
In Scenario #1 (ECU must be sent in and re-flashed by mfg)
To sell the kit, removed from the sled, you mush either:
A} Provide the buyer with the flashed ECU from your sled, if their injectors are the same and buy a new ECU from Polaris and have it flashed at the dealer (cost to you would be about $700 parts/flash at dealer)
To me this system, off of the sled, would have a value/price of around $2000-$2500 IF the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
B} Sell the kit and let the buyer fend for themselves in terms of ECU.
To me this system, off of the sled, would have a value/price of around $1200-$1800 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
In Scenario #2 (Full Piggyback system )
As long as you are careful in removal...
To me this system, off of the sled would have a value/price of around $2000-$2500 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
In Scenario #3 (Programmer is included)
To me this system, off of the sled would have a value/price of around $2200-$2700 if the system has low, verifiable, hours on it, is complete with all documentation and parts etc that came with the kit when new and is in excellent cosmetic/mechanical condition.
Significant reductions in price for incomplete, damaged or high-hour units.
Of course, there are some stellar low hour kits out there AND... a seller is entitled to ask whatever they want.
My 2¢
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